
A Discussion With Jerry E. Smith
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Although Langmuir's work was kept from the public, the scientific community was keenly interested. Controlling hurricanes was the Holy Grail of weather modification, so it comes as no surprise that the US was a leader in this field, such as with Project Stormfury.
RNN: What was Project Stormfury?
SMITH: It was an program of research on hurricane modification carried out between 1962 and 1983 under the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The thrust of the program was to try to reduce the speed of a hurricane's strongest winds, thus diminishing the damage the hurricane would do. Think of an ice skater spinning. With her hands at her side she is spinning her fastest; as she raises her arms she slows. That's what Stormfury tried to do with a hurricane. They seeded silver iodide outside of the eye wall to induce the eye wall to expand, and like raising a spinning skater's arms, slow down. And it worked – at least half of the time… Over the whole almost 20 years of the program they only attempted modification of four hurricanes on eight different days – they learned their lesson from Project Cirrus to never mess with one that was anywhere near the US! On four of these days, the winds decreased by between 10 and 30%. The lack of response on the other days was interpreted to be the result of faulty execution of the seeding or of poorly selected subjects.
Today there is no project officially recognized by the US government as being a federally funded attempt to modify hurricanes. There are, however, a number of private companies in the US working on this, and several foreign nations, as I relate in my latest book WEATHER WARFARE: The Military's Plan To Draft Mother Nature.
RNN: A couple years ago I watched the movie "The Core". Do you believe something that fantastic could occur through weather militarizing?
SMITH: In the 2003 movie The Core there is a secret government project to create a weapon that could create earthquakes on demand. A test of the weapon accidentally stops the Earth's core from rotating, threatening to end life on this planet. On the DVD of that film one can hear in the commentaries where Jon Amiel, the director, matter-of-factly states that the idea for the film was based on HAARP. By "something that fantastic" do you mean some unexpected result of tinkering with processes we know little about which results in a potential to destroy all life on this planet? The scientists involved in HAARP and similar research projects assure us that nothing like that is possible.
If I were to tell you that above-ground nuclear testing is entirely safe, would you believe me? Of course you wouldn't. Yet a generation of Americans did believe that claim when made by the federal government. Scientists also pronounced silicone breast implants, tobacco cigarettes and Vioxx™ safe. Now we know that those misrepresentations cost billions of dollars in medical and legal fees, and have killed millions of Americans. Do I believe those scientists? Do you?
Today the US federal government, through its alphabet soup of regulatory agencies, continues to support controversial (read "deadly") products and projects – and all are deemed safe until proven otherwise. More than 2000 years ago the Romans invented indoor plumbing – something most Americans wouldn't dream of trying to live without today. Yet for most of the last 2000 years that was a "lost technology" – why? Because the Roman's didn't understand the problem of lead poisoning and made their plumbing out of lead pipes ("plumb" is Latin for lead) and the Roman rich, who could afford the new technology, went insane from it. Everyday new technologies are unleashed on the public with little or no understanding of side-effects and long term consequences. We might well have already let loose the unsuspected techno-genie that will kill us all! Yes, I think "something that fantastic" is quite possible.
RNN: What do you make of Chemtrails?
SMITH: I spend more than 100 pages on this subject in my book "WEATHER WARFARE: The Military's Plan To Draft Mother Nature" – I would hate to try to distill that down to just a couple of paragraphs!
RNN: I saw a story today, China Blames The US HAARP Program For Catastrophic Earthquakes. Have you seen this and do you believe there could be something to it?
SMITH: I saw that same story. It claims: "Russian Foreign Ministry reports are stating today the Prime Minister Putin’s ’sudden’ diplomatic trip to France was made at the behest of China’s President Hu in order to ‘warn’ the European Union not to become involved with the US following what is widely expected to be a ‘retaliatory strike’ against the United States, and who the Chinese military has blamed for the catastrophic May 12th earthquake that has killed nearly 90,000 human beings." Until I see conformation from some more credible sources than one End Times website I will treat is as just another piece of Internet scuttlebutt.
One the other hand… Several researchers have realized that HAARP does possess the potential to trigger earthquakes. I cover the science behind this in both my books on the subject. Beyond that there are a number of other technologies that may also be so employed, which I also cover.
Nor is this the first Chinese earthquake to be speculated about as being the result of human action. In January 1978 famed scientist and "founding father" of the American New Age Movement, Andrija Puharich, issued a paper titled "Global Magnetic Warfare – A Layman’s View of Certain Artificially Induced Unusual Effects on the Planet Earth During 1976 and 1977." In it he gave evidence – some of which was nearly identical to events preceding the May 12, 2008, earthquake – indicating that the July 28, 1976 Tangshan, China, quake (which killed an estimated 650,000 people) was the result of the use of an electromagnetic (scalar) weapon.
Such weapons may indeed be in the arsenal. As to whether it was used on the Chinese, by whom, and if the Chinese really do think it was an act of war – your guess is as good as mine.
RNN: Are natural disasters -- floods, heat waves, tsunamis, earthquakes -- which are up by more than 400 percent in two decades, evidence of your thesis?
SMITH: To be honest I don’t know, and there’s no way to tell for sure. That’s the beauty of this technology. Mother Nature gives great "credible denibility."
RNN: Explain what Geophysical Warfare is.
SMITH: In 1966 Dr. Gordon J. F. MacDonald wrote: "The key to geophysical warfare is the identification of environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly greater amounts of energy." This was in "Geophysical Warfare: How to Wreck the Environment," a chapter he contributed to Nigel Calder's 1968 book, Unless Peace Comes: A Scientific Forecast of New Weapons.
Dr. MacDonald was no off-the-deep-end loony; he was one of the United States’ top internationally recognized scientists. At the time he penned those words he was Associate Director of the Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). Dr. MacDonald was also a member of the President's Science Advisory Committee, and was later made a member of the President's Council on Environmental Quality.
In "Space" an article for Toward the Year 2018, released in 1968, Dr. MacDonald elaborated on the possibilities of geophysical warfare writing: "By the year 2018, technology will make available to the leaders of the major nations a variety of techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised. One nation may attack a competitor covertly … techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm, thereby weakening a nation’s capacity and forcing it to accept the demands of the competitor."
Over the last 50 years there may have been any number of "secret wars" of which we have been kept blissfully ignorant.
RNN: Now let me ask you some questions about Roswell. What do you think occurred there in 1947?
SMITH: Something crashed and was recovered. That something operated on an entirely difference set of principles, an totally different physics, from the one we had just won WWII with – and it scared the proverbial ever lovin’ out of those who saw it. From that day to this the US has concocted one idiotic story after another to hide that discovery. Personally, I am less than 30% convinced that that something was extraterrestrial.
RNN: Regardless of a persons worldview, following Vatican chief astronomer Father Jose Gabriel Funes interview saying it's okay for Catholics to believe in Aliens, Tom Horn wrote an article called "Is the Vatican easing humanity toward alien disclosure?" In it he pointed out how Funes was just the latest in a string of Vatican authorities including Guy Consolmagno, Monsignor Corrado Balducci, the now deceased Father Malachi Martin and others who in recent history provided carefully crafted language that almost seems to be designed to help church faithful face the possibility of ET contact. Consolmagno went so far as to the say the chances of finding ET are now better than not. Do you think the Vatican knows something about ET evidence of some kind, or is something else going on here in your opinion?
SMITH: I don’t have a clue what the Vatican knows or thinks it knows. Frankly, all this ET stuff bores me. I am better than 75% convinced that the ET hypothesis was invented by the government. I don’t believe them and I don’t believe it.
RNN: In the several interviews we have done with Jesse Marcel Jr. on radio and in news print, we asked him a related question that often comes up about UFOs and religion. Jesse is a devout Catholic and like some of the high profile church astronomers that have been in the news recently talking about the possibility of intelligent alien life, he agrees that contact with extraterrestrials or some other proof of their existence is not in conflict with church's teachings. Have you given any thought to this question concerning the spiritual or psychological ramifications of what Roswell may represent with regard to people's religious ideas?
SMITH: Yes, but not in those terms. If the truth is different from religious ideas then those religious ideas have to be pitched into the ashcan of outmoded ideas, no?
RNN: What do you make of the latest Indiana Jones film and its ties to Roswell?
SMITH: Jokes and eye-candy. The new Indi film is just a delightful collection of how many goofy, sort-of related things they could work into the story. I would not advise taking it seriously, or trying to find some deeper meaning in it.
RNN: You've written about what could be the next Indiana Jones film -- the Spear of Destiny and the history about Constantine and Adolf Hitler. Tell us about this.
SMITH: According to the Gospel of John in the New Testament, as Jesus Christ hung on the Cross a Roman centurion pierced His side with a spear. A legend has arisen that "whosoever possesses this Holy Lance and understands the powers it serves, holds in his hand the destiny of the world for good or evil."
Also called the Spear of Destiny, this strange relic has been written about for nearly two thousand years. Trevor Ravenscroft captured the world's attention with his 1972 opus The Spear of Destiny. In 1988-89 Col. Howard Buechner released two books that became underground classics, Hitler's Ashes and Adolf Hitler and the Secrets of the Holy Lance. These picked up where Ravenscroft left off, with the Spear leaving Europe to hide for a while beneath the ice of Antarctica.
I wrote SECRETS OF THE HOLY LANCE: The Spear Of Destiny In History & Legend with my best friend, George Piccard. It places the Lance's legend against the backdrop of world history: from its mythical creation by Tubal-Cain, seventh generation grandson of Adam, to its appearance at the Crucifixion; its use by Constantine, Rome's first Christian Caesar; to Charlemagne's claim that with it he ruled the Holy Roman Empire by Divine Right; and on through twelve hundred years of kings and emperors, until it came within Adolf Hitler's grasp -- and beyond. Did it really rest for a while in Antarctic ice? Is it now hidden in Europe, awaiting the next person to claim its power to shape the destiny of mankind?
RNN: Where would something like this get it's power?
SMITH: Ah, that would be telling!
RNN: On another note. I see that you will be at the Burlington Vortex Conference in October. What will the topic of your discussion be?
SMITH: I will give two talks: one on HAARP, Weather Warfare and Chemtrails; and one on the Holy Lance.
RNN: Will you be in Roswell this year too? If so, will you be giving a lecture?
SMITH: Nope, not this year. I did speak at the International UFO Museum and Research Center there in April, 2003.
RNN: Thank you for doing this interview. Please tell people how they can learn more about your research.
SMITH: A good place to start is my website http://www.jerryesmith.com/ There you will find sections on each of my books which include articles, the table of contents, the bibliography, reviews and much more. You will also find an archive of articles I've written, a book of my poetry, biographical material on me, and still more.
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